There seems to be little interest in this topic:
I'M SORRY ...
human interaction today too often seems to feature either playing the role of "offender" or "offended.
"most parties involved in an altercation plead "not guilty" regardless of the evidence.. but are there times when a simple unconditional "i'm sorry" might prevent a harmless spark from becoming a raging inferno?.
i pesonally have offended people hundreds of times during my life and have been offended to the same extent.
There seems to be little interest in this topic:
I'M SORRY ...
about two weeks ago i was having lunch at an establishment that has tables set up on the outside (actually a sidewalk) and as i was waiting for my order, i overheard two guys talking at the next table.
a homely guy who had a pretty girl on his arm brought this response.
"wow man, look at that!
Over time, the pretty "looker" can become ugly "inside" and then the ugly guy will look again ... for someone on the "outside"!
maybe eventually the wts will adapt and change and try to go mainstream.. as 'new shite' shines brightly then;.
maybe eventually celebrating birthdays and even christmas will be 'allowed' without too many repercussions.. maybe eventually the 'blood' issue will fade away and 'brothers' wil be allowed the whole lot of fractions together at the same time.. maybe eventually disfellowshipping and particularly shunning will be seen as unloving and done away with.. personally i would rather this wouldn't happen.. i would prefer to see the wts collapse in the mire even with all the emotional fallout there would be to those still in having their crutches pulled away from them.. i don't want the wts to modify and adapt and go more gentle on the rank and file.. i want them to get more harsh with the brothers.. i want it to go down, not along.. am i being too cruel to those still in?.
would the more loving caring attitude be to hope that the wts changes for the better?.
Thomas:I believe that most mainstream religions started as cults and then evolved or disappeared ... and it's all about sex!
The Shakers, for instance did not allow children and have all but vanished.The Mayan tribes were too busy away at war to be home making babies and they remain only as a splinter.
Now to your question. In increasing numbers JWs are choosing not to have children. Sex is still treated as the forbidden fruit. Since religious growth is primarily from within, it would seem to me that should the current trend continue, the WBTS will be recorded in history as only a footnote.
last year we had a "sheperding visit" by two elders (one is aged 45, another one 28).
the older one is ... how to say it politicaly correct .... is not very smart guy.... the older one wanted to stress the importance of being close to jah.
so he he mentioned he is sometimes under demons atacks, they visit his apartment, turn on the light, and the other day ... imagine ... he was lying in bed, and the demon had come and laid on him, so the poor elder couldnt even breathe ... only calling upon jahs name did save him!
It worked ... this elder probably would have been a no-count in life unless he made up some unbelievable story. Sort of like Richard Reid , the shoe bomber. That ex-con would have lived and died without notice. Now, he is in history books for trying to lead innocent victims to their death.
jehovah`s witness`s have the most stable marriages..very few jehovah`s witness`s cheat on thier mates..most jehovah`s witness`s stay married for thier entire lifes to the same person..jehovah`s witness`s have the happiest marriages!..becoming jehovah`s witness`s,has saved many marriages..................................................my experience has taught me none of that is true.................what is your experience?............................outlaw.
Stable??? If you get married and tied down before you're done sowing your wild Oats ...it will probably lead to Horsing around
Time is the space between birth ... and death .
i have made repeated attempts to move on with my life since your arrival 23 september but cannot.
a change of venue, that of diet, even new clothes have afforded me but a frivolous and temporary elevation of spirits.
accordingly, as i am thus paralyzed by a most profound sense of melancholia, i lie in bed, starring at a black sky, and pine anew for what little contentment life once offered up.
WOW!
I don't have the ability to entirely appreciate your gifted expression ... but ... That's good stuff!
Maintain!
human interaction today too often seems to feature either playing the role of "offender" or "offended.
"most parties involved in an altercation plead "not guilty" regardless of the evidence.. but are there times when a simple unconditional "i'm sorry" might prevent a harmless spark from becoming a raging inferno?.
i pesonally have offended people hundreds of times during my life and have been offended to the same extent.
Human interaction today too often seems to feature either playing the role of "offender" or "offended." Most parties involved in an altercation plead "not guilty" regardless of the evidence.
But are there times when a simple unconditional "I'm sorry" might prevent a harmless spark from becoming a raging inferno?
I pesonally have offended people hundreds of times during my life and have been offended to the same extent. I can not recall an instance when another party offered an apology without adding, to the effect, either " you didn't understand" or "I'm imperfect, get over it"!
It seems that what we need to work on as a society is acepting responsibility for damages done without attempting to deny anything occured. For instance, those who have had negative experiences within the WBTS might have found closure sooner and moved on if those involved had simply stated "I'm sorry if I caused pain" ... period
i really havent been on here in a while, but recently a coworker, who i respect, told me of an "incident" that happened that i really cant explain..so for the hel lof it ..thought id share :).
for clarity here some background on my friend/coworker:he is a siek indian, the type that wear a turbin/bushy beard, very sensitive as to being "brown" in an agressive way ie: not the type to take any crap from anyone..., very smart, anyways he is about to get married now, but, 3 yrs ago in his dorm room at the university of windsor in ont canada his roommate left for the evening.
he takes a shower, then goes to the mirror to shave and says from the corner of his eye he sees a flash of "something" go by him very quckly/ faintly.
Somebody's just playing "Hide and go Siek"
the truth = yes we are!!
ive said this in the past but really why am i at the door...not to sell vaccum cleaners!
we dont "force" people to change religions.....we just force them to stay in with disfellowshiping......."we don't hate gays".......we are just waiting for them to be burnt to death at armagedon..
I have another theory:
I don't think Witnesses actually DO want to convert everyone. If the masses were JWs, then the scripture that says " broad and spacious is the road leading to destruction" would apply. Witnesses are proad to be on the "narrow road" which they claim leads to life.
Therefore public rejection is no more than validation for the "faithful." They are at the door to establish superiority over the householder! They are out in the field to earn their right to life, not to change anyone's religion ... they simply are attempting to flaunt the correctness of their cause ...